Today we are doing something a bit different at Un:Bound for our Ravenous Wednesday funfest! I'm delighted to welcome Pat Bertram for another stop on her whirlwind tour for her third book DAUGHTER AM I.A little about DAI:
When twenty-five-year-old Mary learns she inherited a farm from her recently murdered grandparents--grandparents her father claimed had died before she was born--she becomes obsessed with finding out who they were and why someone wanted them dead. Along the way she accumulates a crew of feisty octogenarians--former gangsters and friends of her grandfather. She meets and falls in love with Tim Olson, whose grand-father shared a deadly secret with her great-grandfather. Now Mary and Tim must stay one step ahead of the killer who is desperate to dig up that secret.
"A delightful treasure-hunting tale of finding one's self in a most unlikely way." -- Publisher's Weekly
Interested? I know I am!
Pat is not a Ravenous Romance author, but Ravenous Wednesday is about more than RR and all of the wonderful authors who write for them; it's about the passion for writing and reading that all of our guests and readers share, regardless of genre. I personally find the inner workings of my fellow writers fascinating and love to compare notes on the writing process each one utilizes to get the job done. So I decided to interview Pat and find out what makes her tick! So please welcome Pat to Un:Bound and let the dissection commence!
1. How do you choose to write what you write? Feel free to expand on this for each of your books, if you'd like!
I’m not sure I chose which books to write; it’s more that they chose me. Like most writers, I’ve written the beginnings of a few books that have gone nowhere. I have zero interest in pursuing them. On the other hand, for various reasons, the books I did write took hold of my imagination and didn’t let go until they were completed.
More Deaths Than One started with an obituary that could have been for a friend’s mother. The woman who passed away came from the same city as the friend’s mother, had a similar name, had two sons about the same age as my friend and his brother. Jokingly, I said, “Maybe this really is your mother.” We had great fun that day trying to figure out how it could be possible for him to be the woman’s son. The story we came up with captured my imagination, and so I had no choice but to pursue it.
A Spark of Heavenly Fire came about because of a Washington Irving quote: “There is in every true woman’s heart a spark of heavenly fire, which lies dormant in the broad daylight of prosperity, but which kindles up, and beams and blazes in the dark hour of adversity.” I loved the idea of a woman who felt half-dead when everyone else was doing well, but in a time of dying, she came to life. Since I didn’t want to do a war story, I created a plague -- the red death. I had fun with that!
Daughter Am I was the combination of two different stories I wanted to write. I’d read The Writer’s Journey by Christopher Vogler, and the mythic journey so captured my imagination that I knew I had to write my own quest story. I also liked the idea of telling little-known truths about the mob, and I settled on the story of a young woman going in search of her past. As she listens to stories of old-time gangsters and bootleggers -- her mentors and allies -- she gradually discovers the truth of her heritage. I’ve always liked stories within stories.
2. What is your writing process? Do you outline first or just jump in and go for it? Up at dawn? Laze about for a while? Tell all! :-)
There’s not really much to tell. Most of the process goes on in my mind. I think about what story I want to tell, who the characters are, what they want, what I want to say, how the story will start and how it will end. When I sit down to write, I read over a bit of what I’ve already written to put me in the right mind frame, then I sit and think. Finally, I put words down on the paper. I keep rewriting those words or cross them out and start over until something clicks, and then I write the scene. It is not a method I would recommend! It takes too long and is too ponderous, but somehow I’ve managed to write four-and-a-half readable books.
3. What are your current writing goals and how do you juggle the promotional aspects with the actual writing?
I haven’t been juggling. I’ve been concentrating solely on promotion. My writing goal for this month is to add a single sentence a day to my work-in-progress. Doesn’t sound like much, but I am out of the habit of writing, and I’d like to reestablish the pattern.
4. What's the best and worst part of the book for you to write?
I struggle with the beginning of every book. It takes me months sometimes to figure out enough of the plot and characterization so I can begin to write, but even when the story comes to me quickly, the writing still takes a year or so. The back end is the most fun because the story choices I made during the writing of the first three-fourth of the book have narrowed the possibilities so much that the plot and characters take on a feeling of inexorability. I just coast to the end.
5. What's been the most surprising part of being a writer?
The most surprising part for me is that I know how to write. For many years, my life was shadowed by the sadness of having no innate talent for writing. I’m not being modest -- I really couldn’t write anything worth reading. When I decided to write despite that lack, I set out to learn everything I could about developing a readable story. Most of the how-to books confused the heck out of me -- the authors would talk about rising conflicts and motivation/reaction units, and I didn’t have a clue what they meant. It’s only recently that I realized I actually know what I’m doing.
6. What's next for you?
My fourth book, Light Bringer, will be released by Second Wind Publishing in April, 2010. That’s the last of my backlog, so if I want to get any other books published, I have to start writing! Yesterday I finished typing up the beginning of my work-in-progress (I still write longhand, can you believe that?) and discovered that I’m 41,000 words into the story -- a tongue-in-cheek apocalyptic allegory. I’ve been saying for two years now that I haven’t been writing, but somehow I’ve managed to complete half the book. So, my first priority is to finish the poor neglected thing. My second priority is to write a graphic novel. It should be fun. I only need to write the dialogue -- the artist will do the rest. And then . . . who knows. Perhaps fame and fortune.
7. Who gave you the best writing advice you ever received and what was it?
The best writing advice I ever received I read in an old book called The Practical Stylist by Sheridan Baker: “Clarity is the first aim; economy the second; grace the third; dignity the fourth. Our writing should be a little strange, a little out of the ordinary, a little beautiful with words and phrases not met everyday, but seeming as right and natural as grass."
8. What do you like to read?
I like to read novels that have it all -- mystery, adventure, romance, a touch of strangeness, a bit of truth -- but since I can’t find that sort of novel very often, I settle for just about anything. Non-fiction, genre fiction, literary fiction, whatever is at hand.
9. What advice do you have for writerly aspirants?
All too often, inexperienced writers tiptoe through their novels, letting major events — fistfights, gunplay, murders, betrayals — take place off-page. It’s much easier to let characters emote afterward than for the writer to take the time and trouble to tackle the action scene. I know I have passed on opportunities to create such scenes, thinking the characters’ reactions all-important, but I forgot one thing: readers need to experience the drama.
Sometimes it’s hard to find the confidence to bring such complex scenes to life, to juggle the many elements that comprise an action scene, but the only way to learn is to plunge headfirst into action. Write it fast and fearlessly; let the words fall where they may. You can always clean up the mess in rewrites.
Thank you so much, Pat, for being our guest today! Everyone, please feel free to bombard her with questions and comments!
34 comments:
Great post as always thanks ladies.
Hey! You were supposed to be asleep, like when Santa (St. Nick) comes to visit, and then have a lovely surprise in the morning!
Just great questions you asked! Even I was interested in reading the responses.
Thank you very much for having me as a guest on Ravenous Wednesday. It's great to be here, though this isn't exactly my normal hangout. Don't have enough hair, for one thing!
You folks are all super examples of persistance. Pat, what do you do when your characters "rebel" and threaten to re-write the story to please themselves?
Inara, thank you for opening the discussion a day or so early. Means more time to talk and thus more fun. LOL.
Pat, it's lovely to have you here! You certainly DO have enough hair to be an honorary RR gal!
Jack, lovely to see you here early. I figure I missed the last RR Wednesday and needed to make up for lost time!
I am pouring a lovely red blend tonight... and will be pouring coffee/tea/mimosas/whatever anyone wants in the morning!
True, books are made up of scenes. Those scenes need to take place onstage, not offstage, or the books will be flat.
Morgan Mandel
http://morganmandel.blogspot.com
Dana - I was up late, stalking my favourite authors as usual y'know and don't think I don't know you've been telling people who I really am either. ;)
Pat - one of the things we love about Un:Bound is getting people out of their usual habitat. Lovely to have you visit.
Jack - Just *hugs* for being such a darling really.
MM - I agree and I hate feeling like I missed all the fun stuff when I read a book.
Dana, as usual you are the perfect host. Tea will be wonderful in any variety.
Adele, I always love to drop by. You are all the friendliest people anywhere.
I agree that the reader should be included in the scene. I don't feel the need to, say, recreate every slice of Jack the Ripper's life's work in my imagination. I don't mind the gore but don't really need the step-by-step description of what happened to Mary Jane Kelley to appreciate that the Ripper was bad news.
(Okay, so I'm a fuddy duddy! Also a wuss!)
Ladies, keep forging ahead. LOL.
tea for Jack! I just got in and am going to make my Belgian chocolate mocha to get me going here... ANyone else?
Morgan, so nice to see you here!!
“Clarity is the first aim; economy the second; grace the third; dignity the fourth. Our writing should be a little strange, a little out of the ordinary, a little beautiful with words and phrases not met everyday, but seeming as right and natural as grass."
Excellent advice! I love that quote. It's the unique voice that brings you back to a storyteller, that "out of the ordinary" quality. It's fascinating that you persisted despite your short-coming in technical skills. When you have stories to tell, they will lead you far. Well, that's what I try to tell my students as I insist on their working on technique.
Dana -- Belgian chocolate mocha? I'll have one! I'm not a coffee drinker, but it seems to fit with the day.
Morgan and Jack, I had to reread the interview -- had no idea I mentioned scenes. Just goes to show one should not do interviews late at night, at least not with some Belgian chocolate mocha to keep one company!
Too much gore and grue takes me out of the scene. An accomplished author can use a few well chosen details to give a feeling of the whole.
Mocha for Pat, coming right up! And don't feel bad - I often forget what I've written right after I've written it.
Kate, my darling! What can I get you?
Considering I have an interminable meeting this afternoon, I'll take a very dry martini, olives on the side (take up too much room in such a little glass and anyway, that's lunch).
Pat, I envy your luxurious chance to focus! I can't imagine not juggling six impossible things, but I would be willing to find out if any millionaires are dropping by.
Hah! Kate, here ya go. WIth a selection of olives on the side just to give your lunch more of a variety.
I'm with you on the focus issue. We need a few millionaires who want nothing more to do than subsidize our writing so we CAN focus. Part of it with me is I tend to think ahead to what I have to do next, rather than focus on what I'm doing at the time. Something I work on daily. I think I just discovered why sometimes my writing sessions are better than others...
I'm with K.A., I love that quote. Great, now I'll have to seek out the book.
It's helps to learn to engage in mindfulness. We've all got into the habit of multi-tasking which is inefficient for really important things. Be here now, as was said so long ago. Don't think about the results, don't think about the next thing until it is time to do it.
Easier said than done, I know. But a powerful practice.
I've read another interview with you, Pat, but I found this very interesting. Learning other writer's inner workings is always neat. No two are the same! I especially love your best writing advice. Much to think on there. :)
Ken, there is ALWAYS another book to add to the pile, isn't there? Sigh...
Margery, can't disagree with you on any of that. I don't want to disagree. In fact, I wanna get you a drink!
Oh, I almost forgot! I'm still a little under the weather, so to start off I'd love a nice cup of tea. We'll get to the drinking in a moment!
Isabel! G&T, yes? Thanks for stopping by!
Great post Pat!
I still have that problem with some scenes - the tendency to want to keep certain scenes off the pages.
It's that old ingrained "what will your mother think" syndrome.
I think the biggest challenge for a new writer is getting over the embarassment of saying things they were taught not to say and worrying what others will think. After all, you hope a few thousand or so of your closest friends will read it.
L.V., that's a great point all the way around!
Wow, what an excellent interview! One of the best writer interviews I've read lately. Thanks to both of you!
Why, thank you!
I have to say Pat is a dream interview. She puts a lot of thought into her responses and they're always interesting!
Pat, it's so great to see you here. I love getting to know fellow authors better, and your work looks fantastic!
Wish I could stick around and drink mochas with all of you, but I'm a little under the weather today and must return to bed.
Great interview! ;-)
Jack, about my characters rebelling. I'm not the kind of instinctive writer who lets the characters and words flow willy nilly. I'm always in control. If at times my characters seem to have a mind of their own, it's only because I have made so many choices for them as to what kind of personality, ego, background, problems, upbringing they had, that there is but a single path they can take.
K.A., Exactly right! Every story has been told, every character created, every situation analyzed. The only thing different we can bring to a book is our own voice -- both how we write and how we think.
It is possible to learn to write. All you have to do is learn to write.
As for not juggling -- it's not luxurious so much as the way my mind works. I can only focus on one thing at a time. I would like to be able to juggle, but I can't. A stray millionaire, however, would make it easier .
Ken, it's really not that great a book. It's more about how to write essays, with a few grammar and punctuation rules thrown in.
cmkempe -- Good advice. "Don't think about the results, don't think about the next thing until it is time to do it." I can only juggle one thing at a time, but I worry about all the things I'm not doing!
Isabel, I enjoy learning about other writer's inner workings, too. I'm pleased you read a couple of my interviews. I tried to make each different in case anyone happened to read more than one, so it's a good thing I did.
Hi, L.V. So pleased to see you! I don't really put anything in my books that I'd be embarrassed to have anyone read. Well, there was that one thing . . .
Lisa, Thank you. Dana was a great interviewer. Asked good questions.
Ah, Dana, now you're making me blush. I did enjoy your interview questions, though.
Heh. I made Pat blush. My job is now complete! :-)
Had to run a few errands but I'm back. Glad to see the party is as lively as ever.
Dana, may I have a Belgian Mocha please? No better way to add to an evening with friends.
Thanks for the answer, Pat. I can see you have your hands firmly on the reins.All you ladies live long and prosper! LOL.
I love this! Great questions and answers! Pat you're right, your secrets are coming into the light. heh.
I loved reading your thought processes and your writing processes as well. Imagine being surprised to find that you've written 41,000 words!
Great blog ladies. Have a great day. Thanks for the great read.
Wow, this IS a fun discussion, Pat! I'm dropping in to let you know I've linked this at Win a Book.
Wanda and Susan, I am pleased you came to the party (for this is what this discussion has felt like -- a party.)
Thank you again, Adele and Dana, for such a wonderful welcome and discussion.
WHat a great interview and discussion. Okay, so I'm late. Pat knows, I'm always late. But this was great.
Sheila, when it comes to blogs, there is no late. Glad you stopped by to join in the fun.
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