When I was a young'n, I had a huge crush on Christopher Lee as Dracula and then as Rochefort in The Three Musketeers. I loved the tall, dark, menacingly handsome ones, the bad boys. This physical ideal lasted through my early twenties, so imagine my surprise when I fell head over hells with a D'artagnan type instead! Sure, he was a swordsman (I did and do and always will have a thing for swordsmen, probably 'cause it's one of my favorite things to do too), but he looked like the hero, not the villain. Bri is a Kevin Costner, not a Clive Owen. But the heart knows no physical type when it decides to fall in love.According to Elizabeth Coldwell, our RR author joining us today on Un:Bound, neither should writers! In honor of Liz, who hails from the U.K., along with our usual bountiful fare of unlimited wine, champagne, G&Ts, vodka martinis, mochas, etc., we have tea, scones, clotted cream (LOTS of that stuff 'cause I will personally eat it by the ton), raspberry preserves, hard cider and a newly installed beer by the tap to choose from. So belly up to the bar and enjoy Elizabeth's post! Please join the discussion in the comment section - we always love to hear what other writers and readers think about the various topics our guest authors choose!
I’ve Seen That Face Before
It’s always really gratifying when someone a million times more famous than you are proves exactly the point you’re going to make. I already had this blog subject in mind, and then along comes John Cleese to confirm it for me. The UK press is full of pictures of him strolling with his latest girlfriend through the beautiful city of Bath (home of one of my favourite shops in the world, Paxton and Whitfield. Posh, cute boys selling exquisite cheese – but I digress...). Anyway, said girlfriend is a tall, elegant blonde – as was the one before that, and the one before that, and probably all of his wives, too. What I’m trying to say is that Cleese very much has a physical type, as do most of us, and one of the pitfalls a lot of romance writers fall into is making their admiration for that particular type just a little too obvious.
Sometimes writers develop a thing for the star actor in a TV series, and suddenly every hero they write about bears an uncanny resemblance to him. Another writer of my acquaintance just can’t stop casting her husband as her leading hunk. Which is sweet, admittedly, but it can’t help colouring your reaction to those characters if you actually know the man in question.
Neither of these traits is as lazy as one of the shortcuts novice writers (as well as some who’ve been around long enough to know better!) often take in character description. They’ll simply put ‘he reminded her of David Duchovny’ or ‘he was like Gerard Butler, only shorter’. This works if you’re writing letters for Penthouse Forum or Hustler, where you have minimal room for character development, plot or anything which isn’t a simple description of fitting tab A into slot B. But in a short story or novel, while looking like Mr Duchovny may be a fine and admirable thing, particularly in his older, grubbier Californication incarnation, by using such a straightforward comparison you’ve blocked the reader off from filling in any blanks. And if she (or he) doesn’t get the hots for him the way you do, you may have succeeded in putting them off your hero. Far better to describe his ‘world-weary handsomeness’ or ‘crinkle-eyed grin’, and let them build up a mental picture for themselves.
It’s also a good exercise for the writer to create a hero who goes against her physical type. It’s a cliché to say if you’re writing erotic romance you know it’s working if it turns you on, but it’s true. If you’re not moved by your own prose, then no one else will be. If you like your men tall, dark and whatever, cast a blond as your hero for a change. Give him personality traits or even an accent you don’t find appealing, and see whether you can still get excited by him. In my story Gym Buddy, which appears in Ravenous’ Hot Dads collection, the heroine and her friend are initially attracted to Ollie because he looks amazing from the back. When they finally see his face, the friend is disappointed because he’s older and much less handsome than she hoped for. The heroine, however, quickly comes to learn that the best thing about a DILF is what’s on the inside – the experience he’s gained and his knowledge of how to really please a woman. I was deliberately writing about a man who might not be your type on first sight, but proved to be more than worth spending a bit of time getting to know. Hopefully, the readers felt the same by the end of the story.
So, just for once, swap the craggy older man for the young pretty boy, the sweet-natured Adonis with the flowing locks for someone bald, bespectacled and grumpy (believe me, there are fans of those!). If your writing is convincing enough, maybe you could even persuade John Cleese that what he really needs in his life is a nice brunette...
Elizabeth Coldwell has been involved in writing and editing erotic fiction for over twenty years. Her stories appear in the Ravenous anthologies Hot Dads, Wicked Pleasures, Young Studs, Hungry For Your Love, Beach Boys, I Kissed A Boy and I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus. She inhabits The (Really) Naughty Corner at http://elizabethcoldwell.wordpress.com. This blog was brought to you by the letters ffffggggggg and the numbers 9888888888888888888888 because Perry, her three-legged cat, decided to walk all over her keyboard again...
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45 comments:
And the hostess is in!
hahahha, sorry, i'm just thinking what a turn off it would be to read erotic romance where I knew the writers husband was the star *ahem* attraction.
Oooh, beer tap's i'm going to assume you are a very well stocked pub and order a pint of Hobgoblin please hostess. :)
Ooh, I'm early! G&T please (I don't care HOW early it is here, I need one...tho I may need a cup of tea, too. One of those mornings I'm thinking.)
I agree, description please! I don't care if it does make me think of David Duchovny, just tell me more of why he looks like it. I may think of someone else. :)
As for your friend casting her husband? I don't even want to go there.
Oh while you guys are here, go pop your suggestions for review titles (real or made up) in our contest two posts down. There will be a small prize from World Horror for the winner and Chris has agreed to review the winning title, (even if the book doesn't exist). ;)
I would find it REALLY hard to read a romance by a friend if I knew she was picturing her husband in the lead role. It really takes the fantasy element out of it for me as a reader. Of course, I guess the other readers wouldn't know...
Good morning, all! Hobgoblin and G&T coming right up!
I agree because mental images of "the strong heroic type" often exist in the mind of the beholder. For instance, Ian Fleming tells us (in CASINO ROYALE)
that his hero, James Bond, resembled "a young Hoagy Carmical".
Most of us know this man as the inventor of the so-called Hoagy sub. But back in the day he was a composer, song writer, and occaisional movie character actor. ( He appears as the piano player in the Bogart,Bacall film, TO HAVE AND TO HAVE NOT.) With all due respect to Mr. Carmical, he is NOT a James Bond type.
As another instance, author Margaret Mitchel wanted Graucho Marx (of all people)to play her cynical hero, Rhett Butler in GWTW, the movie.
Hi, Dana! Think I'll have some hard cider and a scone or two, if you please. This is going to be another fun day! :-)
Can you line up about six Bombadiers or failing that, Budvars. I will come back and comment once I've finished them off.
[LOL -- word verification? "compub" yes yes, that's my plan]
Grouch Marx?!!! HAHAHAHAHAAH!!! OMG, that would have made for one hell of a movie...
Hard cider coming up, Jack! And Kate, anything your little heart (and stomach) desires.
Thanks Dana. I guess it wasn't any worse than the Ritz Brothers (Three Stooges look alikes) who were cast as The Three Musketeers while Don Ameche took on the role of D'Artagnan. (The 1939 version)I think it made Dumas spin in his grave. ;-)
Great post! And I'll have a Zombie, please. ;)
So detailing my heroes after Daniel Craig in Casino Royale's scene where he's naked in a chair may *not* stretch my descriptive skills? I've been watching that scene over and over and (is it hot in here?) over again just to create realism in my erotica. Who knew?
Mama needs a drink.
Hey Jack, did you know that Carmichael did Bacall's singing in the movie, too?
Stacey, I think we need to come up with the Daniel Craig flash ring that goes back and forth between the naked chair/tux/bathing suit when you rotate your hand.
Six Bombardiers down: feeling less stressed. The way you kill a lion is not with a gun but with a thousand little mice biting.
Oh, Jack, I've seen the version and it made ME roll over in my grave... and jump right out of it!
Ah, Daniel Craig... so funny, the first time I saw him was on Sharpe's Eagle (the BBC show with Sean Bean)as a dangerous and VERY foppish bad guy. Memorable line: "She's been a naughty girl and naughty girls need to be spanked." Cracks riding crop.
Great cheesy stuff, that!
Zombie for Mama!
Of course if you did have that ring, you would do nothing but stare at your hand all day...
Ooh, I lvoe the flash ring concept... I want one!
Note to self: must find Sharpe's Eagle ASAP...[heart goes pitter pat]
I'm still shuddering over the whole Groucho as Rhett...please! My mind can NOT compute. Must have another G&T...just keep 'em coming if you don't mind. I'll just snag a scone or 2 also. :)
As for Daniel Craig, when I saw him in Sharpe's Eagle, I had no idea he was Bond. Looked nothing alike. Then again, there are a lot of actors in Sharpe who went on to become big.
However, therein lies the problem of using characters/actors as the sole desctiptive. I have NO IDEA who Hoagy Carmical is, sorry Jack. The relation would be (and is) lost on me.
Dana, dearest, please: six martinis, shaken not stirred.
Still love Sean Connery as James Bond. Some men just SIZZLE. (Unfortunately, they can lose that sizzle later in life.)
If a romance author happened to be married to the 18-year-old Connery and I was alive when Connery was 18... then perhaps featuring husband as lead romantic character would work for me. Otherwise - YUCK!
More martinis! And some frapsyll !
(my word verification)
Sure didn't, Kate. Thanks for the update.
Not surprised at all, Lana. Meybe it was a poor example but it was the only one which came to mind this morning.
HAH! Dana, your reaction is what I WOULD have expected. Love the fact that it pissed you off enough to bring you back to us. It would be too d***n dull without you.
"She's been a naughty girl and naughty girls need to be spanked." Cracks riding crop.
Yes, please! (Wait, my husband isn't reading this, is he?) Then again...
OOOOOOPS!!! Sorry Isabel. Don't know why I said "Lana". They say you get senile when you get old. Must be true. ;-)
OOOOOOPS!!! Sorry Isabel. Don't know why I said "Lana". They say you get senile when you get old. Must be true. ;-)
I would take Groucho Marx over Clark Gable in a FLASH. Guess that tells you a lot about how much I like to laugh.
Kate, the carrying Scarlet up the stairs scene just would not have worked with the cigar... heeee....
Frapsyl and other drinks being dispensed!
ah ladies, and the ever awesome Jack, I am enjoying this. You pull a good pint Dana so another in there please.
Hobgoblin for Adele!
So would one of the other Marx brothers play Ashley?
Zeppo perhaps? Chico? Nah, just can't see it. That would be the equivalent of hiring Lupe Velez to play Malanie. Or maybe Carrol Lombard. (Well Lombard couls speak better English than Velez. Hmmm...Jack Benny maybe?) ;-)
What about Margaret...er...her last name escapes me, but the woman who played the dowager Harpo was always making fun of... she could be Mammy!
Margaret Dumont I believe. Now who would play Prissy?
Hmmm,..., How about a very young Marjorie Main.?
Good morning, all! Coffee for me, for now ... but maybe I'll have a caffe corretto in a bit. ;-)
Great character advice, Elizabeth!
Margaret Mitchell; is no doubt rolling around in HER grave by now...
Hi, Lisa! Coffee it is! You know where all the good stuff is should you choose to tart it up later. :-)
Does this mean we might have to deal with an MM zombie?
Maybe she'd write GWTW And Zombies.
Time for a refresher. I think I'd like a Hobgblin this time. Love the name for obvious reasons.
I've never tried Hobgoblin, but I DO love the name!
Six more Bombardiers for me. Must write a column and then go see our distinguished speaker. Then some actual not virtual drinks!
Do you all think the romance/monster mash-ups will spread as far as Mitchell? if they're doing "Android Karenina" next, I suppose it's possible.
I'm still waiting for The Brothers Karamazov: Cossacks And Zombies.
I really would hate to see this stuff spread even more widely. We already have The War Of The Worlds And Zombies.
I mean I enjoy a good parody as well as anyone. But this is just getting to me for some reason I can't explain.
Anyway how about The Bible And Zombies for a parody? Could simply be a series of pictured vignettes: Eve chompi9ng on Adam, for instance. Or Gideon routing the Philistines with a corps of dead Israelites.
Something to think about at least.
I love all of the mash-ups--very creative and fun. I can't wait to see what comes next!
There's always Tove Jansen's Moomin Papa And Zombies. ;-)
Dana - it's a really lovely easy to drink real ale from the wychwood brewery, not too heavy not too light, but delicious.
Jack! Now you've gone too far! Even as zombies the Moomins would continue to be sweet and gentle. Well, not Little My, of course, but --
Why would the family have to be zombies? If they can be outrun and outwitted, you might have a zesty little comedy parody on your hands.
Didn't mean to give offense Kate. I respect and like you too much for that nonsense. Very sorry if it did.
I'm just having a total blast today.
*sitting back with a glass of champagne and enjoying the conversation... *
LOL -- Jack, don't worry. I'm just joking, too. The funny thing is I can see the Moomins coping with zombies the same way they did with floods, comets and the magician's hat. Gently, kindly and with lots of pancakes and tea.
Except for Little My ;-)
In honour of the Moomins: some ice cold Finnish vodka, mein hostess!
Am back at work, and while that in itself doesn't require more G&T's it's been one of those days.
I enjoy the additions of vampires, demons and zombies (oh my!) to the genre of classics. (Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter, Queen Victoria Demon Hunter are 2 newer ones)
Honestly, I thought Pride and Prejudice and Zombies needed MORE zombies and less plot holes. In merging the genres the author was so eager to put zombies in, he forgot to double check how it affected the P&P plot he strived to stay true to.
Over all, I think it's a love-fest. (One, granted, I read!) People enamored with a certain story use those characters to create new stories that stay true to the original but are also completely different. They used to call it fanfic. :)
I guess it also says something about character development. When you're comfortable with a set of characters you take them, for instance Elizabeth and Darcy, to continue with the theme of Pride and Prejudice, and create new stories without significant development.
Ice cold vodka, Finnish! Right here! And G&T for Isabel... I'm so tired right now I'm just gonna enjoy the banter and pour drinks. And drink 'em.
With a great barbaric yawp, I run away to the guest speaker and then dinner with same. Large martini with my name on it will make it a trio. Back later.
I hear you Dana. Enjoy a good rest from blogging and from everything else so you'll be ready for the work challenges tomorrow. I've really enjoyed myself this day. As if you couldn't already tell.;-)
looking forward to being with all of you again in two weeks. (Unless extraordinary situations dictate otherwise.)
Thanks to both you and Adele for all the fun.
Signing off for now. LOL.
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